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		<title>By: hispanic football players &#124; Digg hot tags</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 05:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: WoodsidePatriot</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 01:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, Juan.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Excellent points made.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I would highlight that college soccer and Hispanics do not mix for the right and the wrong reasons.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The right reasons in that the level of play is generally awful. Its a style of play that emphacizes fitness, speed and athleticism over imagination, dribbling and passing skills. It makes for a great aerobic workout --if you happen to be playing--- and for a boring ping-pong, tennis like bouncing of the ball back and forth sort of soccer.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The wrong reasons are that, unfortunately, there are only a handful of American Latino players participating and this in turn is because American Latinos have the highest high school dropout rates, thus most do not make it to college at all.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Social solution. American Latinos have to find a way to help their children do well in primary and secondary school and get them motivated to attend college, the good soccer players can then qualify for soccer scholarships.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Soccer solution. Ditch college soccer as the main source of MLS youth talent. Have all MLS clubs, finallly, fully develop their own developmental youth teams. Make a comprehensive effort to reach out and identify American Latino youth talent in the barrios and mostly urban dwellings most American Latinos live. Provide financial assistance to those that need it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As to Hispanic media attention to college. Olvidalo!  They are nice kids, but come on, the playing style if unwatchable. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Play and let play&quot; is the Brazilian way. For those of you who do not what I mean, I will be glad to write more extensively about this on another occassion. This is the only way to play the game, anything else is a soccer sin.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Best.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Woodside Patriot&lt;br&gt;NYC&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;###</description>
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Great article, Juan.</p>
<p>Excellent points made.</p>
<p>I would highlight that college soccer and Hispanics do not mix for the right and the wrong reasons.</p>
<p>The right reasons in that the level of play is generally awful. Its a style of play that emphacizes fitness, speed and athleticism over imagination, dribbling and passing skills. It makes for a great aerobic workout –if you happen to be playing— and for a boring ping-pong, tennis like bouncing of the ball back and forth sort of soccer.</p>
<p>The wrong reasons are that, unfortunately, there are only a handful of American Latino players participating and this in turn is because American Latinos have the highest high school dropout rates, thus most do not make it to college at all.</p>
<p>Social solution. American Latinos have to find a way to help their children do well in primary and secondary school and get them motivated to attend college, the good soccer players can then qualify for soccer scholarships.</p>
<p>Soccer solution. Ditch college soccer as the main source of MLS youth talent. Have all MLS clubs, finallly, fully develop their own developmental youth teams. Make a comprehensive effort to reach out and identify American Latino youth talent in the barrios and mostly urban dwellings most American Latinos live. Provide financial assistance to those that need it.</p>
<p>As to Hispanic media attention to college. Olvidalo!  They are nice kids, but come on, the playing style if unwatchable. </p>
<p>“Play and let play” is the Brazilian way. For those of you who do not what I mean, I will be glad to write more extensively about this on another occassion. This is the only way to play the game, anything else is a soccer sin.</p>
<p>Best.</p>
<p>Woodside Patriot<br />NYC</p>
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		<title>By: Antonio Reis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antonio Reis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 04:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think many people considers college soccer as a serious venue for entertainment.&lt;br&gt;Even the MLS with dedicated marketing functions have limited entertainment value and exists only due to large youth participation in the sport.&lt;br&gt;The main problem with soccer in the USA is not the level of play or the greatness of soccer in another parts of the world. It is true that the level of soccer in the US is lower than in England, Germany or Spain. &lt;br&gt;However consider this position... &lt;br&gt;Managers of MLS clubs establish relations with clubs aboard such as to give the appearance of a minor league affiliation.&lt;br&gt;There is not relegation in the MLS so there is little incentive for dedicated play by those teams without aspirations to the league title.&lt;br&gt;There is little a small club can look for since getting into the MLS is mostly related to angel money and not effective development of soccer.&lt;br&gt;There is little a young soccer player can aspire to since the youth club rarely has an organized adult team and quickly finds that the full ride college dream is just that, a dream that only a few good students can realize. The emphasis here is good student and not good soccer player. Just imagine if in order to be a raper, one would need to major in physics. &lt;br&gt;The USSF develops youth soccer academies with output of less quality than a barrio leagues.&lt;br&gt;In the US we have National Championships at the age of 11. May appear crazy but in a country of 320 million with enough participation and organization to compete at 11 at a national level the problem is not fans or interest. Those managing the top echelons of soccer do not have enough knowledge about  development of soccer culture through inclusion of masses. They consider themselves inferior and they get treated as such.&lt;br&gt;College soccer is just the bottom end of the chain and it is not surprising that it has little entertainment value.</description>
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I don't think many people considers college soccer as a serious venue for entertainment.<br />Even the MLS with dedicated marketing functions have limited entertainment value and exists only due to large youth participation in the sport.<br />The main problem with soccer in the USA is not the level of play or the greatness of soccer in another parts of the world. It is true that the level of soccer in the US is lower than in England, Germany or Spain. <br />However consider this position… <br />Managers of MLS clubs establish relations with clubs aboard such as to give the appearance of a minor league affiliation.<br />There is not relegation in the MLS so there is little incentive for dedicated play by those teams without aspirations to the league title.<br />There is little a small club can look for since getting into the MLS is mostly related to angel money and not effective development of soccer.<br />There is little a young soccer player can aspire to since the youth club rarely has an organized adult team and quickly finds that the full ride college dream is just that, a dream that only a few good students can realize. The emphasis here is good student and not good soccer player. Just imagine if in order to be a raper, one would need to major in physics. <br />The USSF develops youth soccer academies with output of less quality than a barrio leagues.<br />In the US we have National Championships at the age of 11. May appear crazy but in a country of 320 million with enough participation and organization to compete at 11 at a national level the problem is not fans or interest. Those managing the top echelons of soccer do not have enough knowledge about  development of soccer culture through inclusion of masses. They consider themselves inferior and they get treated as such.<br />College soccer is just the bottom end of the chain and it is not surprising that it has little entertainment value.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Juan</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, but the &quot;US sports model&quot; you speak of applies to football and basketball only.  In baseball, like in soccer, though not as severe; the most elite players are better off playing for a professional dev team (AAA, AA, A-ball) rather than the NCAA.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The reason the football model is the way it is, in my opinion, is that when gridiron football was born in this country, it was as a collegiate sport.  In fact, most recently portrayed in the movie &quot;Leatherheads&quot;; in football&#039;s early days, the professional organization was kind of a joke compared to college football; and really stayed that way until the 50&#039;s -- argued by some, after the &quot;Greatest Game Ever Played&quot;, the first overtime NFL championship was contested between Baltimore and New York.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But only in the last handful of decades has the professional version of the sport become the biggest spectator event in all the land.  Similar story with basketball.  It was invented as a college intramural activity in Kansas.  The NBA had a quicker rise than the NFL did, but lately it seems that the biggest basketball games in college are more of a draw than the NBA -- think March Madness versus the NBA Finals...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For baseball, college baseball is not even really on the map.  Where can you find it on TV?  You really can&#039;t.  Unless the College World Series is on.  And even then, it doesn&#039;t look like a huge sellout event -- though not nearly as bad as the miserable failure that was the promotion of the College Cup (were there maybe 10 people there???)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So there isn&#039;t a full-on &quot;U.S. system&quot; across the board.  I think every sport is different, and I&#039;d throw NCAA soccer on the forgotten dogpile that includes NCAA baseball and NCAA hockey.</description>
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True, but the “US sports model” you speak of applies to football and basketball only.  In baseball, like in soccer, though not as severe; the most elite players are better off playing for a professional dev team (AAA, AA, A-ball) rather than the NCAA.</p>
<p>The reason the football model is the way it is, in my opinion, is that when gridiron football was born in this country, it was as a collegiate sport.  In fact, most recently portrayed in the movie “Leatherheads”; in football's early days, the professional organization was kind of a joke compared to college football; and really stayed that way until the 50's — argued by some, after the “Greatest Game Ever Played”, the first overtime NFL championship was contested between Baltimore and New York.</p>
<p>But only in the last handful of decades has the professional version of the sport become the biggest spectator event in all the land.  Similar story with basketball.  It was invented as a college intramural activity in Kansas.  The NBA had a quicker rise than the NFL did, but lately it seems that the biggest basketball games in college are more of a draw than the NBA — think March Madness versus the NBA Finals…</p>
<p>For baseball, college baseball is not even really on the map.  Where can you find it on TV?  You really can't.  Unless the College World Series is on.  And even then, it doesn't look like a huge sellout event — though not nearly as bad as the miserable failure that was the promotion of the College Cup (were there maybe 10 people there???)</p>
<p>So there isn't a full-on “U.S. system” across the board.  I think every sport is different, and I'd throw NCAA soccer on the forgotten dogpile that includes NCAA baseball and NCAA hockey.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Best Online College Recruiting Info &#124; Get Recruited Today</title>
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		<title>By: Fuega Love</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 16:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. I think for Hispanic media and Hispanics themselves to pay attention to college soccer, as Juan got to the point, they need to pay attention to us. NCAA does a bad job of marketing themselves and they do a bad job at highlighting their Latino players - if they have any. It is not until recent years that Univision has began highlighting NCAA football. There has, at the same time, been an increase of Latino football players in this division such as, USCs Mark Sanchez, Virginia Tech&#039;s Devin Perez, UTEP&#039;s Jose Martinez and more. Even in smaller but growing Hispanic markets such as Oklahoma and Little Rock broadcasts of the NCAA football games can be heard. I wonder if these local team who are having issues in recruiting Latino kids have opened the doors and reached out or if they are just complaining.</description>
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Interesting. I think for Hispanic media and Hispanics themselves to pay attention to college soccer, as Juan got to the point, they need to pay attention to us. NCAA does a bad job of marketing themselves and they do a bad job at highlighting their Latino players – if they have any. It is not until recent years that Univision has began highlighting NCAA football. There has, at the same time, been an increase of Latino football players in this division such as, USCs Mark Sanchez, Virginia Tech's Devin Perez, UTEP's Jose Martinez and more. Even in smaller but growing Hispanic markets such as Oklahoma and Little Rock broadcasts of the NCAA football games can be heard. I wonder if these local team who are having issues in recruiting Latino kids have opened the doors and reached out or if they are just complaining.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 00:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Juan&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Excellent points. While the NFL and NBA can rely on universities to develop players, it just won&#039;t work with soccer&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thank you for pointing out the flaws of the system. So many soccer commentators and pundits make excuse for NCAA soccer and become apologists for it like this silly article titled &quot;Colleges still an important pipeline to the pros&quot; &lt;a href=&quot;http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=600730&amp;sec=ncaa&amp;root=ncaa&amp;cc=5901&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=6...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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<p>Excellent points. While the NFL and NBA can rely on universities to develop players, it just won't work with soccer</p>
<p>Thank you for pointing out the flaws of the system. So many soccer commentators and pundits make excuse for NCAA soccer and become apologists for it like this silly article titled “Colleges still an important pipeline to the pros” <a href="http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=600730&#038;sec=ncaa&#038;root=ncaa&#038;cc=5901" rel="nofollow">http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=6…</a><!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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		<title>By: lil j</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 00:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yo this is lil j, I have to say thats true I have a 12 year old daughter who&#039;s at the top of her age group and I also have a problem keeping her in club. Seems like you cant catch a break. also the coaches are&#039;nt qualified, I do a better job coaching her at home. I played in Juarez Mexico and the game level is higher. I&#039;m not saying mexicans are better but I will say as fans and love of the game we are. and it needs to change because I am an american now and I want my american brothers to fill the same about the greatest game in the world. I mean when we have a world cup champion in soccer we actually played the world to earn the title. correct me if I&#039;m wrong.</description>
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yo this is lil j, I have to say thats true I have a 12 year old daughter who's at the top of her age group and I also have a problem keeping her in club. Seems like you cant catch a break. also the coaches are'nt qualified, I do a better job coaching her at home. I played in Juarez Mexico and the game level is higher. I'm not saying mexicans are better but I will say as fans and love of the game we are. and it needs to change because I am an american now and I want my american brothers to fill the same about the greatest game in the world. I mean when we have a world cup champion in soccer we actually played the world to earn the title. correct me if I'm wrong.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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